Are Rich Americans Leaving The Country?
I heard the rumor the other week. A number of wealthy Americans are leaving, or making plans to leave, the country. The player-haters can’t wait (of course). Consider the following comment that appeared on DemocraticUnderground.com:
LEAVE. Take your money and go. America will survive without you…
So rather than ruin our country for the other 90% whom you despise. Go away. Take all of your precious money and go elsewhere. Even if it means depression we will be better off in the long run without your manipulation of our government just for the sake of having your cake and eating it too.
And it appears some politicians can’t wait for the rich to leave either. On June 11, CNN Money senior writer Jeanne Sahadi talked about the 2008 U.S. presidential candidates’ proposed tax policies. She wrote:
But voters really want to know one thing: How would the presidential candidates’ views trickle down to their tax bills? A report released Wednesday by a nonpartisan policy group in Washington, D.C., takes a big first step toward answering that question.
According to the Tax Policy Center’s findings, Sahadi wrote that under presumptive Democratic nominee for president Barack Obama:
High-income taxpayers would pay more in taxes, while everyone else’s tax bill would be reduced…
Obama’s plan would keep the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts in place for everyone except those making more than roughly $250,000, and he would increase the capital gains tax.
…the highest-income households – those with at least $603,000 in income - would see a dramatic decline in their after-tax income - a drop of 8.7%, or $116,000.
The CNN Money senior writer noted:
Jason Furman, a newly appointed senior economic adviser to Obama, said his preliminary response is that the report’s findings bear out what Obama’s campaign has been saying: that he’s for the middle class.
At the expense of the rich, apparently. Just this afternoon, the Associated Press reported:
Democratic Sen. Barack Obama on Friday called for higher payroll taxes on wage-earners making more than $250,000 annually, a step that would affect the wealthiest 3 percent of Americans.
The presidential candidate told senior citizens in Ohio that it is unfair for middle-class earners to pay the Social Security tax “on every dime they make,” while millionaires and billionaires pay it on only “a very small percentage of their income.”
The 6.2 percent payroll tax is now applied to all wages up to $102,000 a year, which covers the entire amount for most Americans. Under Obama’s plan, the tax would not apply to wages between that amount and $250,000. But all annual salaries above the quarter-million-dollar amount would be taxed under his plan, Obama said.
I know what you may be thinking. It’s about time the rich starting paying their fair share of taxes. However, last fall, the Washington, D.C.-based tax research organization The Tax Foundation looked at the latest release of Internal Revenue Service data on individual income taxes. In 2005:
The top-earning 25 percent of taxpayers (AGI over $62,068) earned 67.5 percent of the nation’s income, but they paid more than four out of every five dollars collected by the federal income tax (86 percent). The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI over $364,657) earned approximately 21.2 percent of the nation’s income (as defined by AGI), yet paid 39.4 percent of all federal income taxes. That means the top 1 percent of tax returns paid about the same amount of federal individual income taxes as the bottom 95 percent of tax returns.
Stephen Moore, a senior economics writer for the Wall Street Journal editorial board and a contributor to CNBC, wrote in the November/December 2007 issue of The American magazine:
Yes, income in America is skewed toward the rich. But taxes are skewed far, far more. The top 5 percent pay well over half the income taxes.
Maybe the rich ain’t so bad after all. Get rid of them, and who will pay for all those precious government programs?
But the question still remains. Are rich Americans leaving, or planning to leave, the country? Consider a poll conducted by Zogby International which asked adult Americans if they had ever considered moving outside the United States. The survey, which had more than 115,000 respondents, excluded anyone relocating offshore for less than two years and anyone who relocated because of government requirements, the military or their jobs. Bob Bauman of offshore experts The Sovereign Society wrote on October 16:
The Zogby results are shocking – especially compared to the entire U.S. population (now about 303,116,000). The numbers below are for households, not individuals.
• 1.6 million U.S. households already decided to move offshore and are headed in that direction.
• Another 1.8 million households are seriously considering moving and are likely to do it. Many have taken preliminary steps.
• 7.7 million households are “somewhat seriously” considering moving and “may” do it.
• Nearly 3 million households are seriously considering buying a vacation home or other property outside the United States. Another 10 million are “somewhat” seriously considering it.This means that almost 10% of U.S. households are considering leaving the country. Another 10% are considering living outside the country part-time. Most analysts are ignoring this silent massive emigration.
These would-be emigrant households plan to spend an average of US$260,000 on buying or building a house. They’re also planning to spend at least US$36,000 annually on living expenses outside the United States.
In total, they represent hundreds of billions of dollars leaving the U.S. economy each year.
Bauman quoted John Gaver of ActionAmerica.org, who said:
The problem is that increasingly, the wealthy perceive that they are under attack by their own government and they are taking the only rational option left open to them. They’re taking their wealth and leaving.
And regarding the number of wealthy Americans who have already left the country, Bauman wrote:
Every year, about 250,000 U.S. citizens and resident aliens leave America to make a new home in some other nation.
In 2005, the U.S. Bureau of the Census upped this estimate. They guessed that over 350,000 U.S. citizens and resident aliens would leave the United States permanently.
On February 15, John Gaver wrote in a piece on ActionAmerica.org:
Wealthy US citizens continue to leave the US at an alarming rate…
Tax haven countries are recording significantly larger numbers of US applicants for permanent residence or second citizenship every year. Keep in mind that most of those expats are wealthy, since poor people can’t afford to leave. In fact, millions of poor people risk their lives in the back of trailers or crossing Arizona desert every year, to take advantage of our increasing welfare state. It is the wealthy, who are leaving and they represent lost US investment dollars and subsequently, LOST US JOBS…
When big money is forced out of the US, it is the average citizen who has to make up the difference in higher taxes. The Income Tax and US government attacks on wealth is costing you money in more ways than you know.
Sources:
“What they’ll do to your tax bill”
Jeanne Sahadi
CNN Money, June 11, 2008
“Obama wants payroll tax on incomes above $250,000”
Charles Babington
Associated Press, June 13, 2008
“Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data”
Gerald Prante
The Tax Foundation, October 5, 2007
“Guess Who Really Pays The Taxes”
Stephen Moore
The American, November/December 2007
“Why the Well-to-Do Are Escaping America”
Bob Bauman
The Sovereign Society, October 16, 2007
“US Taxpatriates Compiled by the Internal Revenue Service”
John Gaver
ActionAmerica.org, February 15, 2008








June 14th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
In an absolute sense, a lot of wealthy folks pay only as much tax as some in the middle class. They are really, really good at deducting in ways that one cannot do without a heap of capital and large investments. Sing me no sad songs.
Would that more were like Warren Buffet.
June 15th, 2008 at 10:24 am
So where are they going? Europe? The weak dollar doesn’t make that look like a good idea. $260K won’t buy you a mansion in most of Western Europe. Latin America? Is it really a safe place for the wealthy? What country do they prefer? A small tax haven in the Caribbean? Lichtenstein?
Or is this a phenomenon of Chinese and other foreign ex-pats returning home? Or Mexican workers heading home? Or Americans with little retirement savings thinking of living in Mexico? If the numbers are so large (10-20% of the population), it is probably all of the above.
June 15th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Thanks for the comment Scorpio.
“Would that more were like Warren Buffet.”
In what way? Criticizing the U.S. tax system for not being more “equitable”? While I’m not defending them here, I’d have to go out on a limb and say the rich (”Millionaire Next Door” rich, not the poseurs) probably feel like they’re getting a raw deal, instead of favorable tax treatment, from the U.S. government. To them, it would appear as if Uncle Sam is trying to pry away more of the fruits of their labor than he justly deserves. I’d be under that same impression too if I encountered data suggesting I was paying a disproportionate share of taxes, while at the same time subjected to increasingly-hostile statements from a presumptive Democratic nominee for president.
Consider the following passage from Secrets of Swiss Banking by Hoyt Barber, a tax haven/offshore banking consultant, which I happened to be reading last night:
June 15th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Thanks for the comment Leo.
“So where are they going?”
While the reasons for expatriation are surely varied (hence, “all of the above” is probably correct), consider the following excerpt from an article by Volker Poelzl on TransitionsAbroad.com:
“The Lure of Foreign Lands”
Volker Poelzl
June 15th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Ah, the joys of travel!
Not all the countries mentioned above are tax havens, however.
The door also swings both ways. The LA Times reports that the elites of Tijuana are fleeing to San Diego. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2008/06/tijuanas-elite.html
The U.S. has arguably the best health care in the world if you can afford it, something to ponder in some countries.
I love European culture, but many Americans will not find that they fit in easily, especially if they don’t want to learn a foreign language.
Then there are work permit and visa restrictions. I might have stayed in Switzerland where I was a post-doctoral fellow years ago had it not been for the work permit problem.
June 16th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Are the people who are “leaving the country” keeping a house in the U.S.? The people I know who are leaving the United States are mostly middle to upper-middle class, retirees who want their retirement dollar to go further and are getting a place somewhere like Mexico or Costa Rica. Most of them are keeping their home in the U.S. and plan to spend summers in American and winters in a warmer climate. Almost all are planning to keep their house in America.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Thanks for the comment Leo.
“Not all the countries mentioned above are tax havens, however.”
No, they aren’t, but they seem to be popular with American expats.
“The LA Times reports that the elites of Tijuana are fleeing to San Diego.”
Hey, if things are as bad as the article says they are in Tijuana, then ANYPLACE has got to be better than there.
“The U.S. has arguably the best health care in the world if you can afford it”
Key phrase- “if you can afford it”
“I love European culture, but many Americans will not find that they fit in easily, especially if they don’t want to learn a foreign language.”
Agreed. Fortunately for me, I’d fit right in (if not cause concern), because with my shaved head/bigger build, I’ve been told I look like a football (soccer) hooligan. That reminds me, my new Sunderland jersey should be coming any day now…
June 17th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Thanks for the comment Beth.
Are you sure the people you are referring to aren’t just “snowbirds” (as we call them ’round here, referring to Midwesterners who escape the brutal winters by heading south to Florida or elsewhere) of a different type? I know that the Zogby International poll data weeds this group out:
As for Bauman and Gaver, the expats they speak of are establishing their primary residences and appearing on tax rolls overseas. It wouldn’t be beyond reason to think that a number of them might retain their homes (secondary residence) in the United States, however…
June 17th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Interesting that neither New Zealand nor Canada are on the above list of expat destinations.
Perhaps Canada was excluded due to taxes.
Russia is also a fantastic, interesting place, although I could not imagine retiring there, due to the corruption & incompetent bureaucracy.
-Mammoth
June 17th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
From link
“You may not like paying federal taxes, but chances are you’re not going to renounce your U.S. citizenship to get out of the obligation.
That’s probably wise, especially because a tax bill expected to be signed into law this week contains a provision designed to crack down on the roughly 500 rich people who expatriate themselves each year to avoid U.S. income and estate taxes.”
June 17th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Thanks for the comment Mammoth.
“Interesting that neither New Zealand nor Canada are on the above list of expat destinations.”
I wouldn’t call that list definitive. I’m sure each expat has chosen their particular destination based on his/her own specific requirements and preferences. For example, someone may want to live in Monaco because of its tax-friendly reputation. However, they might not be able to afford property there (a real concern), so it’s not feasible for that particular individual.
“Russia is also a fantastic, interesting place, although I could not imagine retiring there, due to the corruption & incompetent bureaucracy.”
I’ve heard Russia still has a few things to iron out. As Stalin used to say, “When you chop wood, splinters fly.”
June 17th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Interesting article. Thanks for sharing that link with everyone Leo.
Note what the piece said:
“The government estimates that the provision aimed at expatriates would generate $411 million in extra tax revenue over the next 10 years.”
While I won’t comment too much on this (I was planning to discuss this more in a upcoming post), keep in mind that the federal government could have clamped down a while back. But now that it is in serious financial trouble, look for more actions like this in the near future. Other countries around the world are starting to do the same.
U.S. Gameplan- Block the exit doors on rich Americans trying to leave (hit ‘em in the wallets), then hammer them with higher taxes down the road.
June 21st, 2008 at 6:54 pm
The rich are leave because they fear a “populist” backlash.
The educated elites here are like the ones in Mexico/Latin America. Embrace liberal “European” lifestyle choices and policies like say in the Western EU countries [good schools, friendly civility, etc] FOR THEMSELVES, but at the same time support economic policies that attack the rest of the 90% of their country men back home like Neo-Liberal Globalisation.
So in America, implement socialism for the privileged but never for the masses of USA while at the same time CONVINCE THEM THAT EUROPEAN SOCIALISM is AGAINST THEIR BETTER INTERESTS. Then emigrate to these countries to enjoy their socialist system. Countries with European lifestyle with high concentration of “light-skin” middle class wealth. [See list of countries from Editor Says June 15th, 2008 at 2:06 pm]
Sounds like a RICH MEXICAN who enjoys living in America but hates reformers back home fighting to implement similar living standards for the majority of Mexicans to enjoy.
I’ve been to Paris and I always wondered where the “BOURGE” American Expats lived and I wondered if their brain power could have be used to steer America into a better direction, but alas, that would involve lifting up the status of America’s non-white underclass and White poor which would have been the deal killer.
My advice to those leaving is to go to South America because it mimics the economic plantation system that you help set up here.
CAPITALIST United States = Latin American failed state create by the VERY PEOPLE LEAVING IT for SOCIALISM.
thx
pl
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Thanks for the comments ntm.
“The rich are leave because they fear a ‘populist’ backlash.”
Wouldn’t be surprised, considering some of the politicial rhetoric these days. Fanning the flames could be dangerous though. Wouldn’t want a full-blown episode of capital flight. My gut feeling tells me that a number of events (political, economic, cultural) would have to take place for this to happen though.
“The educated elites here are like the ones in Mexico/Latin America.”
Interesting comparison…
October 7th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I’m more interested to know how many “leavers” are returning to their native lands. ie: Irish to Ireland, English to England, French descendants to France, etc. , although it is interesting to note that the rich are leaving, the ones who have been wise enough to not waste all their $! That must mean that the Federal Gov’t will be around for a long time, haha.
pv
October 8th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Thanks for the comment paul. I don’t have these numbers off-hand— but I’ll see if I can’t get them later. I suspect expatriation numbers will fluctuate due to the current economic and job market conditions. For example, Jonathan Dart of the Sydney Morning Herald wrote on September 29:
November 5th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Paraguay, oh Paraguay! I’m going to live forever in Paraguay!
Screw Obama! He can’t have my $ and while in Paraguay, I can connect with anti-US government militia types and other Christian conservatives here in the to work for the overthrow of the socialist order in the US. And the IRS can’t touch me in Paraguay! I’ve already shipped most of my money out of the US, and I challenge the IRS to ever find a nickel of it. Should a Reagan style conservative government come back into being in the US, then I will return with my money. Paraguay is the country, Yeah!
November 5th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
I am thinking strongly of leaving. Mainly because I longer believe I can afford to live here. The Democrats who ran Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac caused a situation in which my investments have been trashed. I have to try to get by on what I have left. There will be no economic rebound under this Socialist government. That is the one thing I know for sure. Paraguay? Hmm.
I believe the goal of Soros et al is to destroy this country. I don’t know why. Maybe because they are evil. I see what is happening. It is not accident. It is now pretty much a done deal.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Thanks for the comment Hunter. I’m guessing you like Paraguay, huh?
November 6th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Thanks for the comment Connie. I, too, have serious doubts the future Obama Administration will be able to stop the approaching financial storm. In fact, from the sound of things it appears they’ll make things worse.
Folks, try to keep one step ahead of the coming carnage…
November 14th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Please sold out their principles , our constitution and insulted a true war hero because they felt Obama was going to “take from the rich and give to them.” They didn’t even care that he and his wife are anti-American terrorist sympathizers (always have been). They don’t care - just give me money without working for it….hope it works out but I’m favority New Zealand to retire…one year from now everyone but the rich Democrats he serves will deny they voted for him…what a shame!
November 17th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Thanks for the comment Connie.
“…one year from now everyone but the rich Democrats he serves will deny they voted for him…what a shame!”
Funny. I just said the same thing to someone else the other day. By the way, did everyone make sure to pick up their Obama commemorative collector plates?
December 7th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I think people play an odd shuffle game when they hold up Warren Buffet as an example of “a good rich person”.
He has so much money that no taxation policy would effect him. So your using a bad example.
I would be effected less by taxation if I had $300 billion then if I had $5 million.
This comparison is like asking who would worry more about being hit by a car, spiderman or God. Spiderman may jump out of the way (ie move out of the country for our rich person), God does not even have to think about the on coming car!
December 8th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Thanks for the comment Heather.
“He has so much money that no taxation policy would effect him. So your using a bad example.”
I don’t recall using the “Oracle of Omaha” as an example. But I do agree with your statement, and your illustration of the oncoming car and Spiderman/God.
March 19th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
I dreamed last night of living in Australia, to get away from this country, I’m tired of hearing that those with money, and anyone who makes any money at all and works hard for it has to give up so much of it so that some lazy ghetto-rat can stay in his roach motel…Maybe that’s a bit harsh, but I want out, because it’s my money, not yours. I wouldn’t mind paying taxes to help those who really can’t get out of their own bed or off the couch to go work, but don’t tell me that there are MILLIONS of “good’ people in this country that need more of my income when I work in Section 8 housing everyday and see where my money is really going, a bunch of lazy, America hating(at least they think they do) losers who won’t better themselves and expect the “gov-ment’ to do it for them…I am planning to move, within the next ten years, I’ll be either an Australian or British Citizen…
April 15th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Yeah, it’s about time! The rich have never really paid the taxes they owe. They always transfer money overseas, where it can’t be taxed. They spend thousands of dollars on everyday items, like “sheets”…while the middle class is sinking into poverty…let’s get real…
April 16th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Thanks for the comment Deb. You might want to check out a post I’m writing (will be out by tomorrow at the latest) that talks about taxing “rich” Americans.
June 27th, 2009 at 1:11 am
for every rich american leaving, there will be 10 to replace him. check out the investment visas. that requires you to have at least $500 000 to get a visa. there is always a waiting list for this visa. i personally am no fan of the rich people, so all i gotta say is dont let the door hit you on the way out. i myself am not poor, but as far as personalities go, rich people are not very attractive.
June 27th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Thanks for the comment Jonathan.